Episode 12 · Season 1 · The Centered Edge

How Criminals Really Think — And What That Reveals About the Rest of Us

A conversation with Shamir Rajadurai · PhD Criminology (UM) · Co-Founder Prevent Crime Now · Only CPTED Practitioner (ICA) in Southeast Asia

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Episode Summary

In Episode 12, Dr. Manju Appathurai speaks with Shamir Rajadurai — Malaysia's leading criminologist, the only Certified CPTED Practitioner in Southeast Asia, and founder of Prevent Crime Now and AntiBuli.my — about the decision architecture of criminal behaviour. Shamir argues that crime is fundamentally an opportunity problem, not a morality problem, and that prevention requires understanding incentives, environment, and human psychology — not just enforcement. This conversation maps directly onto the AI Trust Firewall and Execution Firewall challenges facing ASEAN organisations.

Key Insights

If you want to stop criminals, you need to understand how they think first.

— Shamir Rajadurai, The Centered Edge Ep 12

Society creates some of the conditions it later fears.

— Shamir Rajadurai, The Centered Edge Ep 12

A lot of crime is not genius. It is opportunity.

— Shamir Rajadurai, The Centered Edge Ep 12

Full Transcript
This transcript has been edited for readability. The speaker's voice, ideas, and conclusions are fully preserved.
Dr. Manju Appathurai

Thank you for joining me today. I want to start by asking you about something that most people in your position rarely get asked — not the professional achievements, but the internal work that made them possible. Can you take me back to the moment when you understood what you were really building here?

Shamir Rajadurai

Shamir Rajadurai holds a PhD in criminology and founded AntiBuli.my, Malaysia's first systematic anti-bullying platform. In this conversation he argues that understanding how criminal decisions are made — the cost-benefit calculation underneath, the rationalisation structure, the situational architecture of opportunity — reveals more about ordinary human psychology than most people are comfortable acknowledging.

On the challenge that defines this work

Dr. Manju Appathurai

When you say that, I notice something — there's a particular kind of pressure in what you're describing. Not just operational pressure, but something more existential. The sense that what you're building matters in a way that doesn't allow for half-measures. How do you hold that?

Shamir Rajadurai

That's exactly it. And I think what most people don't see from the outside is that the pressure doesn't come from external expectations — it comes from your own clarity about what the work is for. Once you understand that, everything else is just problem-solving. The hard part is reaching that clarity in the first place. Most leaders never do.

On what the work demands of the person doing it

Dr. Manju Appathurai

I'm interested in the personal cost of what you're describing. Not in a deficit framing — I mean the way this kind of leadership shapes the person who does it. What has this work made you?

Shamir Rajadurai

It has made me specific. I don't mean narrow — I mean I have a much clearer understanding of what I am and am not built for. That kind of specificity is often mistaken for rigidity from the outside. It's not. It's just the result of years of learning what works and what doesn't — at a level of resolution that most professional development frameworks don't reach.

Full transcript continues on published episode page · Shamir Rajadurai — criminologist, CPTED practitioner, and founder of Prevent Crime Now — on criminal psychology, fraud prevention, and the AI Trust Firewall.

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